Squeak has spoiled me!

Phil Jones phil at runtime-collective.com
Mon Apr 7 12:12:41 UTC 2003

Aaagh! I'm a Java programmer. And it makes me sick too. 

God! I wish I could be spoilt a little by having the chance to work in
Squeak. Haven't done any Smalltalk professionally since the early 90s.

phil jones

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 goran.hultgren at bluefish.se wrote:

> Hi Jimmie and all!
> Jimmie Houchin <jhouchin at texoma.net> wrote:
> [SNIP]
> > I find it challenging to look at or try other languages without asking 
> > myself, "why am I here?".
> > 
> > I am thoroughly spoiled by simplicity of Smalltalk, the living 
> > environment of Squeak. I just can't go back.
> Exactly and I think this is how the majority of us
> Smalltalkers/Squeakers feel.
> I have quite a few languages under my belt but nothing comes close to
> Smalltalk.
> Forth/Scheme/Lisp are languages with a similar feeling of "Power through
> simplicity" but in the end of the day it is in Smalltalk that I really
> feel productive.
> For a few years I tended to get interested by Python, Ruby etc and
> really "tried" to look at them with open eyes. Sure, they look
> impressive with their large communities and sometimes much more orderly
> documentation but in the end I always realize that - for me - Smalltalk
> and Squeak is so much better.
> And Java just makes me sick. And yes, I have worked several years with
> Java.:-) Of course, I do envy all their nice libraries and tools - they
> really do crank out tons and tons of good stuff but I always get the
> feeling that people really into Java don't appreciate the "Power of
> Simplicity". They are much more into building
> mega-complex-architecture-enterprise-solutions... It amazes me how they
> (yes, generalizing grossly here) don't stop for a second and reflect on
> the sheer complexity of their solutions.
> regards, Göran

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