Sublicensing

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Sat Aug 16 09:00:20 UTC 2003


Hi daniel

I would really like that all the cleaning we are doing, is done under 
MIT or dual licensing
I'm really sad about this Squeak-L license. so how do we proceed for 
that. Should we include in all the changesets we produce a MIT license?

Stef



On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 10:12 PM, Daniel Vainsencher wrote:

> I gave the VM as an example. To end up with a completely free squeak,
> we'd need to eventually replace all the code we cannot get relicensed 
> as
> free software.
>
> This will take a lot of time, and somewhat change how we do things, and
> people need to decide if its what they want. One positive aspect of
> having to rewrite everything is that it makes it easier to mini-"burn
> the disc packs". We'd be replacing whole subsystems anyway, so putting
> some new ideas in there would be easier.
>
> So if we look at it really positively, it does have an exciting aspect
> ;-)
>
> Daniel
>
> Joshua 'Schwa' Gargus <schwa at cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 09:27:14PM +0200, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>> Now, this lawyer is not a copyright/opensource expert, and it is
>>>>> possible we'll find someone more confident about getting smart. 
>>>>> But I
>>>>> think we need to start planning on solving this problem by 
>>>>> organizing
>>>>> *and by coding*, rather than by PR, lawyers or licensing. I say 
>>>>> this
>>>>> quite sadly, because this will not be easy to do :-( OTOH, it 
>>>>> could be
>>>>> fun. Anyone care to design a new VM? :-)
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Just  a naive question. If we would come up with a new VM, this would
>>> solve the problem?
>>
>> No.  We'd have to replace all the Collection classes, Magnitude
>> classes, etc.  Eg: pretty much anything in Squeak up to the point
>> that Squeak Central left Apple.  And maybe more.
>>
>>> What means a new VM exactly how different would it have to be?
>>> Stef
>>
>> Ask a lawyer!  That's a very good question.  Probably not that
>> different, since this VM is based on the blue-book spec.  Just
>> as long as code is not copied directly.
>>
>> Joshua (IANAL)
>



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