On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 09:29  AM, goran.krampe at bluefish.se 
wrote:

> But since I haven't been able to even raise one single little concern
> with you Andreas I don't think there is any point for me to continue
> this thread. You don't see any problem whatsoever with contributors
> adding clauses. I do. We are obviously just stuck here. Now I am 
> waiting
> for someone else to chime in or I am dropping it, it is just a waste of
> time.

What I got out of this thread is that support for a "don't sue me" 
license isn't as pervasive as it appeared. Perhaps what we really need 
is a SqueakL 2.0.

The only real problem with the SqueakL is that it prevents integration 
with the broader Open Source and Free Software communities. If we put 
in some lawyer time to make the SqueakL simpler and removing the 
problematic areas, we could then take *that* license around to the 
copyright holders.

Apple is going to be tough to convince no matter what we do. My feeling 
is that we have a better chance of success if we're really clear about 
what we want when we approach them, and we've done the legwork before 
hand.

Achieving consensus among ourselves is a pretty important first step, 
and it might be easier if we try for a small change rather than a 
radical one.

Colin