Re-doing Morphic ( Was: Re: Traits prototype image )

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at
Thu Feb 6 17:19:12 UTC 2003


I would move everything to a cleaner smaller morphic system. I was 
waiting for SqScript.
Andreas any reaction?

> Let's say a team of people ( or one really energetic person ) reworks 
> Morphic to make it simpler, easier to understand, and perhaps faster.  
> They announce "SonOfMorphic 1.0" to the list and put it on SqueakMap.  
> How many current Morphic app developers would put in the work to move 
> their app to SonOfMorphic?  How many Project authors would re-do their 
> Projects using SonOfMorphic?  Let's say half of the current 
> authors/developers do so.  Wouldn't that split the efforts of the 
> Squeak community?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Joyce [mailto:daniel.a.joyce at]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:33 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: Traits prototype image
> On Wednesday 05 February 2003 01:09 am, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I totally agree with you Stephane. I faced the same problems when
>> making MetaclassTalk. The classbuilder is not clean at all. And in
>> many kernel classes, one can find methods with hundreds of lines and
>> hardwirings. This make any experiments with core Squeak classes
>> heavy...
>> Note: My intent is not to blame people who wrote the code, but to
>> make Squeak become better...
>> Noury
> Nevermind Morphic, which just seems to keep bloating and bloating.
> Anyone up for redoing it?
> Wasn't that a project a while ago? To redo morphic? Everyone talks 
> about
> design patterns, and refactoring, but no one ever seems to do it in
> Squeak.
> -Daniel
> Squeak is good, but I find the cruft really gets in the way of a lot of
> things. I've started using PHP lately, and I really like it for webpage
> scripting. It's clean, it works, and it's fast for a scripting host.
> Plus conceptually, it's very smalltalky in it's object behaviour.
Prof. Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at
  "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes

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