SqueadBSD license

Jimmie Houchin jhouchin at texoma.net
Sat Feb 22 16:38:13 UTC 2003

Another thought regarding the BSD license and Apple.

 From my understanding Apple is currently the beneficiary and consumer 
of  BSD software. OS X core, Darwin, is based on BSD software.

Apple is going to be very familiar with protections available via BSD 
license. And since Apple, to my understanding, does not have any 
proprietary, intellectual knowledge, patents, etc... in Squeak to 
protect, the BSD license shouldn't be a problem.

 From their FAQ: http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ps-faq.html
Q. How did you come up with the Apple Public Source License (APSL)?

First, we studied several of the open and community source models that 
currently exist, including the Free Software Foundation's General Public 
License (GPL), BSD license, Apache license, Netscape and Mozilla Public 
Licenses, and Sun's Community Source License. Drawing from those 
examples, we drafted the APSL in an effort to promote open source 
development of our software while at the same time allowing Apple to 
reasonably protect our intellectual property and meet our business 
goals. We are grateful for the many community members who put 
significant time and effort into helping us revise the APSL to create 
version 1.2.

Hopefully this would be doable.

Jimmie Houchin

Jimmie Houchin wrote:
> In the spirit of my last post here is a sample of a Squeak BSD license.
> I went ahead and selected the BSD because I thought Apple would prefer
> to have the 'no endorsement' clause. It is from the OSI template.
> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
> This license does not include the YEAR.
> I did not see a year listed in the current Sq-L.
> Would you place a range of years for Apple when they were stewards
> (owners) of Squeak?
> Would you also need to include Disney in such, with a range of years?
> Also, I forgot to mention. We could ask Apple for permission to use the
> fonts without it being in the license. Or we can offer them the choice
> for us to remove the fonts. The fonts if permitted by Apple could have
> their own copyright/license just as any fonts we add to Squeak would do.
> We and Apple could make the decision together whether or not the fonts
> are an issue to Apple currently. (or just historically)
> Would we need a place to transfer copyright ownership to?
> Would we need a Squeak Foundation?
> So that we could have something like:
> 198x-199x Apple Computer, Inc.
> 199x-xxxx Disney, Inc.
> 200x-     Squeak Foundation
> Comments, Alan, Andrew, anyone.
> Jimmie Houchin

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