release prioritization (was "ClassBuilder problem")

Craig Latta craig.latta at
Fri Feb 28 02:07:03 UTC 2003

	(Resent to squeak-dev, since my email address wasn't set right for
squeak-dev's anti-spam processor before.)

	Colin writes:

> I think it would be worth delaying the release of 3.4 to include this
> fix. Having easy-to-install packages for Traits and Islands would be
> very beneficial. The more people can play around with and exercise
> that code, the better.

        I don't think that's a convincing rationale for inclusion in
3.4. The 3.4 release is a vehicle for SqueakMap. I think only problems
which have a catastrophic effect on a newcomer's ability to use
SqueakMap should delay 3.4.

        Doug writes (on the Foundation list):

> ...since Andreas just posted the ClassBuilder fix, I'm thinking that
> may be worth including and postponing the release by a few days for
> people to test.

        Why? (And I don't use question marks lightly in this message,
since I know they could cause more delay. :)

> Since I'm doing that, I could also perhaps include Ned's recent
> ArchiveViewer fix, since I've looked at that and its seems
> straightforward and is a somewhat important fix.


        I don't think "somewhat important" cuts it at this release
stage. Instead, I think it's better to weigh the results of leaving
out, rather than of including it.

        My recollection of our group discussions at OOPSLA, in November
2002, were that we would take 3.2, add SqueakMap support to it, and
release it as 3.4. It is now February 2003. This surprises me, even
given our history. :)

        I think we should release 3.4 now, and defer all outstanding
available fixes into the 3.5a stream (subject to harvester approval). In
our current situation, I think anyone likely to encounter the bugs
described recently will be able to get them easily from the update
stream. In the meantime, newcomers will have easier access to SqueakMap
sooner. I think it's time to release.



Craig Latta
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