Sorry, I don't think my attached screenshot worked... (the Apple Mail 
program is pretty horrible with attachments)

I just put the screenshot here:

http://www.mindspring.com/~dway/smalltalk/notifier.gif

- Doug Way


On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 12:50 AM, Doug Way wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 08:30 PM, Tim Rowledge wrote:
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> > First thing I get reminded of when starting to look at this is -
> > why on earth does going from the notifier to the debugger involve 
> some
> > idiotic fading window nonsense? On a fast machine it happens too fast
> > to
> > notice and on a slow machine it is utterly annoying. Aargh!
>
> I've noticed this too.  Whatever it is, I'm sure it's not intentional. 
> (Or at least I hope not, in the name of all things decent.)
>
> On a reasonably slow machine (400Mhz Mac G4), this "ghost" window
> appears for maybe a 1/4 of second before dissappearing.
>
> My guess is that maybe the component submorphs of the notifier window
> are being deleted a little bit later than the rest of the SystemWindow
> for some unknown reason.  (Just based on the behavior, I haven't looked
> at the code.)  With the #alternativeWindowLook preference (the
> default), a lot of window panes are translucent, so I think that
> explains the weird fade-out effect.
>
> Hey, I just tried hitting alt-. while the notifier was "fading" out to
> see if I could catch it in the act, and I got it on the first try! 
> I've attached a screenshot.  The ghost window still a full-fledged
> PreDebugWindow (SystemWindow) at this point, and I can bring up halos
> on it, so my previous theory was wrong.  When inspecting the window,
> the color of the window is a TranslucentColor (see the screenshot),
> while a normal notifier is a regular Color.  So somewhere the window's
> color is being changed before it dissappears.
>
> I don't feel like looking further into it at the moment, but this might
> be enough to pique someone's curiosity, and figure out what's going on.
>
> - Doug Way
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