Folks --

At 1:46 PM +0100 3/14/03, Cees de Groot wrote:
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>On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 20:32, Daniel Vainsencher wrote:
>>  All of these may seem trivial now, but they mean we're getting farther
>>  from a small but increasingly important part of the world of computing.
>>  The friendly part.
>>
>That's indeed an important issue. And I like it to be cleared. The
>balance: we're jeopardizing someone's life work (can we call Squeak
>Alan's life work? I think we can), it seems.

No, you *aren't* jeopardizing my life's work at all! Not even close. 
My life's work isn't Smalltalk or Squeak but certain perspectives on 
things I think important that gave rise to ideals I think we should 
pursue. Squeak is just another computer language that could be a 
reasonable vehicle for making progress. I'm just trying to help avoid 
"unnecessary difficulties" given that there a lot of "real and 
necessary difficulties" that still need to be focussed on.

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>My assessment at the moment is that the things at Disney weren't as
>clearly arranged as at Apple. As long as we keep a low profile (that's
>what I've been trying to do with Apple...), there's little risk.
>However, sooner or later someone at Disney is bound to wake up anyway,
>will execute a vain attempt to find release forms (from Disney to SqC),
>and will immediately call in the legal dogs. The Disney legal dogs you
>want to let sleep, I agree with that  *if* my assessment is corret (ok,
>a better solution would be to feed them very poisonous dog food ;-)).
>
>Which leaves us in the sticky position of several of us wanting to do
>serious work, actual business on top of Squeak, but this situation
>effectively prevents it.

Only your current POV prevents it.

>Clean-rooming isn't a way out either.
>Pretending nothing happened is not an option for a serious business.
>What do we do, collectively hop over to GSt and redo everything there?

Try a different POV and you'll feel better.

Cheers,

Alan

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