Hi Allen --

Your presumption below is correct. We did start with version 1.

Cheers,

Alan

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At 11:03 AM -0800 3/17/03, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote:
>At 10:30 AM 3/17/2003 -0800, Tim Rowledge wrote:
>>  > Just curious:
>>>  How much RAM did that system have and roughly how many classes did the
>>>  image have you were working with?
>>Almost none and very few. The Magnolia was a predecessor of the
>>commercial 4404 which had a massive 1Mb of ram. And a stunningly fast
>>8MHz 68000 cpu.
>
>Actually, the 4404 (which was announced in July 1984 and shipped in 
>Jan 85) had a 10Mhz 68010 (it had a virtual memory OS which plan 
>68000s did not support).  It was available in 1 and 2 MB 
>configurations.  Smalltalk ran ok in 1 MB but for "large" projects 
>2MB was preferable.
>
>Tektronix Smalltalk was based upon Smalltalk-80 Version 2 and my 
>recollection was that the initial Tektronix release had about 250 
>classes.
>
>I presume that Squeak was based upon Smalltalk-80 Version 1 as that 
>was what was originally licensed to Apple (along with Tek, Dec, and 
>HP). As far as I could tell, the primary reason for ST-80 V2 was the 
>Xerox realized that the V1 license terms were, from their 
>perspective,  way too favorable to the licensees. V2 provided an 
>opportunity for them to revise the license.  There were a number of 
>times at Tektronix that we regretted having updated to the V2 image 
>and license.
>
>Allen Wirfs-Brock


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