Squeak : the Sharing, the Direction, the Code Submissions (the
Good, the Bad & the Ugly)
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Fri May 9 17:43:36 UTC 2003
Have you contact avi and the monticello's guy to help them?
Because I would love to have a good and powerful package mechanism.
But we need people to help and test it.
On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 06:21 PM, Benoit St-Jean wrote:
> Okay guys!
> After reading a zillion posts, I decided I'd put my 2
> cents in the discussion.
> Obviously, just by looking at the names on this list,
> there's a huge amount of talent and brain in the
> Squeak community. How come we can't come up with
> something? How come we can't figure out a decent
> solution for sharing, code submission, Squeak
> direction, etc.
> There's a lot of communities out there and a lot of
> them are friendly environments for sharing,
> collaboration and good places for individual opinions
> and projects. I think we should probably imitate one
> that works...
> How come can't we have something like the Ruby
> repository, Debian, CPAN or the Cincom community with
> StORE. And do we really need only one direction for
> Squeak? Do we really need a rigid procedure for code
> I'd say we work on establishing the limits of the base
> image and let people attach their own goodies on top
> of it, just like VW. And just like VW, if your stuff
> is good enough, people will love it and use it a lot
> and it will eventually be included in what's
> considered the base image.
> Let's work on splitting the image, not the community!
> Like most people here, I just want to code and enjoy
> Squeak! Do I really care about Squeak direction? Yes
> and no. I'm doing a lot of database stuff while some
> people are using Squeak for multimedia, others use
> Comanche/Seaside etc. Obviously, whatever we decide
> for the next Squeak, there's going to be a lot of
> unhappy people. We're a democracy so I'll go with
> whatever the majority decides, even though it might no
> please me. Just like Cincom, IBM, Object Arts or
> Persist AG can push their product in a new direction
> and I can't say a word.
> I'd also say that the next thing we need is a good
> StORE/ENVY/Monticello tool for code management. I f
> we want to do serious code sharing, base image
> stripping, manage multiple conflicting code
> submissions, we need a serious tool quick or get a
> dozen more harvesters!
> All that being said, back to Smalltalk... :)
> Benoit St-Jean
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