Hi russel

Indeed we compare Transcript use and beep. We do not have self show: 
but Transcript show: self, so we do not want self beep but Beeper beep.

The idea we are playing with and once complete (I have no time now) 
will send for review
  is to have a class Beeper. That AbstractSound package will extend: 
this way we avoid the
	smalltalk at: #SampledSound check and only use polymorphim.


On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 02:44 AM, Russell Penney wrote:

> Thanks Stef, I almost didn't send the email but I felt I should
> contribute to a community who are working very hard to make a fantastic
> system even more fantastic! Better than just whining about it further
> down the track. Thanks for making a newbie welcome.
>
> Hmmmm I think you have just pushed the bounds of this indifferent
> programmer. Maybe an Exception? Or maybe just for these notifications 
> in
> the minimal kernel a different name for the method might do it. Or just
> always use primitive beep in the minimal kernel functions.
>
> I was thinking you might have a stub AbstractSound in the kernel, like
> you might have stubs for I/O. For example in a headless system I don't
> want sound and I want Transcript written to a logfile.
> The "public" interface is all you have to stub out, this interface is
> put on the swiki and newbies can find the few useful functions for the
> subsystems easily. If people want to delve in more they can, but the 
> key
> IMHO is to get people up and running fast. That would go a long way to
> realising everybody's visions.
>
> I haven't thought this through completely and I know I am simplifying
> things, I am very naive :)
>
> Russell
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> Stephane Ducasse
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2003 8:59 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: A lurkers ravings (was RE: Smalltalk beep -> XXX beep?)
> (anothertry)
>
> hi russel
>
> Your email made us think a lot. Much more than my original answer.
> So we do not like to have beep in Object. Now what could be a better
> solution, but we do not
> want to have the complete AbstractSound in the kernel.
>
> I will try to implement it and send it for review soon.
>
> Thanks for the sting
>
> Stef
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