Richard,
	I really like this idea, to me it satisfies the basic unease I
had with beep.
I just had a look and of the 150 or so senders of beep, about 50% are
from Morphs which override beep anyway so they are not a problem. Some
of the others use Smalltalk beep anyway. So it wouldn't be a major
problem to do.

I sort of picked on beep as an example of what I saw as a serious
problem which has resulted in the KCP and MCP projects. I remember
reading a Smalltalk design type book ages ago (I will see if I can dig
up name and author when I get back from Korea) which said that if you
need to put a method in Object, think again, and think some more and if
there is no other way, sure do it. 
For example, imagine you are not a 20 year veteran of Smalltalk or
coding, look at Object, and see that there is 'beep' and 'beep:'. Each
uses a completely different way of playing sound but they are named the
same! That is confusing for the poor bunny who doesn't know Squeak very
well.

Russell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On 
> Behalf Of Richard A. O'Keefe
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:22 PM
> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: RE: A lurkers ravings (was RE: Smalltalk beep -> XXX 
> beep?)(anothertry)
> 
> 
> "Russell Penney" <russell.penney at tincanct.com> wrote:
> 	I was thinking you might have a stub AbstractSound in 
> the kernel, like
> 	you might have stubs for I/O. For example in a headless 
> system I don't
> 	want sound and I want Transcript written to a logfile.
> 
> Perhaps #beep should move to TranscriptStream.  Transcript is 
> sort of a "base level" interaction point which is usable on 
> headless systems, soundless systems, &c.  If it's writing to 
> a file Transcript beep could just as well write a BEL character.
> 
> Since (Transcript beep) already works, the code can be adjusted in two
> stages:  (1) change self beep to Transcript beep, (2) remove 
> #beep from Object.  Transcript is required by the ANSI 
> standard, so there had better be some minimalist form of 
> Transcript even in the minimal image.
> 
> 
>