Putting squeak in business.

Richard A. O'Keefe ok at cs.otago.ac.nz
Thu Nov 20 04:13:34 UTC 2003


Bruce ONeel <edoneel at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
	As one of those lisp machine fanatics I sure wouldn't mind a SqueakOS.  That said, again as someone who had to use

I also used Lisp machines, but Xerox ones.

	- The file systems sucked.  Yes, that's a technical term.  How we 
	wished for even a DOS FAT file system with extended file 
	names, yet alone something as nice as extfs2 or bsd's ffs.

We had problems with the Xerox Lisp machines because we were adding
Prolog support, and that meant tinkering with the microcode and at
best using primitives like \GETWORD and \PUTWORD that bypassed all the
usual Lisp checking.  So rebooting from floppies because _we_ had fouled
something up was not uncommon and not pleasant.  However, I must say that
we never had any trouble at all with the Interlisp-D file system.  Oh,
and we hooked it up to a network of mixed Unix boxes with *no* trouble...

Perhaps coming from the same stable as Smalltalk (and running on some of
the same machines that Smalltalk ran on after the Alto) had something to
do with it.

Now I can stop feeling inferior for not using a "real" Lisp machine (:-).



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