hi marcus

I agree. Alex should really finishes the framework for building browser 
so that others can try it. Because
with it writing browsers is easier.
So what is the pratical things that we can do for the tests?
Stef


On Lundi, oct 13, 2003, at 18:56 Europe/Zurich, Marcus Denker wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 06:11:04PM +0200, ducasse wrote:
>> Tell us what you think on that. I have the impression that we could
>> raise the level of awareness of the tests by some
>> simple actions. We could then also have some nice conventions that are
>> so dead simple to follow that we would have
>> regularity in names and clarity in Tests.
>>
> One thing I don't like with an image that has all tests loaded are
> two things:
>
> 1) TestRunner. It shows thousands of tests (actually only 488 ;-)), but
>    I'm only interested in the tests for my projects. And I don't want
>    to run all tests explicitly: It just takes to much time. (But this
>    could happen automatically in the backround... the idea of automatic
>    continous testing is a nice one).
>
>    We should look into partitioning the tests in a more intelligent
>    way (e.g. at Package-boundaries "run all tests for Package XY").
>
>
> 2) The Browser. The Tests-package adds a companion category to
>    every class-category in the system. That adds a lot of
>    noise....
>
>    The browser allready hides a complete second hierarchy (the
>    metaclases). We switch between them using the "class" Button.
>    Maybe we could hide the tests in a similar way... BrowseUnit
>    allready is a step into that direction.
>
>    (Here we need to think about examples... if we provide easy
>     access to tests, we should do the same for the examples
>     that the tests are based upon.... (c.f Markus Gaelli's Eg))
>
>     Another thing (not related to test that much): We really need
>     to think about is making packages more explicit: "These Classes
>     are a package and depend on those other packages". The Browser
>     should show this, and I think it should be more explicit than
>     only naming conventions... some kind of "Package-info-aware"
>     Browser is really needed.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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