HttpView overhaul was: Re: Exploring Zope and ZPatterns [WEB][IDEA]

Jimmie Houchin jhouchin at texoma.net
Thu Oct 30 23:38:42 UTC 2003


Hello Göran,

goran.krampe at bluefish.se wrote:
[SNIP]
> And no - HttpView is not as advanced as Seaside, but it is pretty nifty
> in itself. And soon there will be a nice article to read with samples
> etc! :-)

I most definitely think there is room for different web tool kits.
Not necessarily a proliferation, but a few to cover different views.
As Avi suggested sharing some infrastructure would be nice where 
beneficial to both tools.

But it appears from my limited understanding of both Seaside and HV that 
they have different philosophies and perspectives and neither is wrong.

Somethings that are very much a part of Seaside don't fit into my view 
of my current webapps. But they seem to work very well for Avi and 
company. Seaside seems to be a very unique and brilliant web environment.

I currently very much want/need bookmarkable pages.
I currently very much want reasonable and readable URLs.
   ie: limited (preferrably none) state information embedded in the URL.

Those are my priorities for my current project not Seasides.
If I am wrong about Seaside's ability to have bookmarkable pages by 
their nature not by explicitly defined entry points, please correct my 
understanding. I don't say this as a knock against Seaside. It has my 
utmost respect.

URL handling is one area I liked very much about Zope.
There is much I didn't, which is why I am no longer there. :)


> PS. I am giving HttpView an overhaul right now, has just made it work
> with the new Komanche from Stephen and I am also simplifying some stuff
> etc.

I look forward to seeing the new HV and the new articles.

I've been considering installing it, but didn't know what conflicts 
there would be with Kom6.x.

I've just read your two articles. I look forward to others.

Pantera is good? Yes!!!

Jimmie Houchin




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