Markus Fritsche <Fritsche.Markus at gmx.net> writes:

> at my university (in german - what leads me to think why the hell
> students here are so scared reading english books).

The irony is that English books often are easier to understand ;-)

> We learn six months smalltalk and after that we have a crash course
> in java.

Is there a list of German universities still teaching Smalltalk? Here
at the University of Hamburg Smalltalk seems to be dead, even in the
courses spezialising in OO it's barely mentioned. However, Alan Kay's
presentation at the "Mensch und Computer" conference here last year
raised some interest. He should be cloned.

On the other hand, I got exposure to Miranda (Haskell's predecessor)
in the first six months and Oberon in the next six. This was in the
mid '90s. Currently it's Scheme and Java.