Ah yes, much better ;-)

Thanks,
  - Andreas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexandre Bergel" <bergel at iam.unibe.ch>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)


> Ok, try now. It should be okay I guess.
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 06:20:01PM +0200, Andreas Raab wrote:
> > Hm...
> >     Error occurred during install:
> >     ClassBox>>activeProcess
> > And then the system is dead...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   - Andreas
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Alexandre Bergel" <bergel at iam.unibe.ch>
> > To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> > <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)
> >
> >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > This thread is a good motivation to release something. On SqueakMap I
have
> > created two packages: Classbox and ClassboxBrowser. It is pretty messy,
a
> > lot of names are not well chosen, I just need time to clean it a bit.
> > Unfortunately I cannot spend the amount of time I would like on this
stuff.
> > >
> > > The model is more or less okay. One good startpoint is to read the
test
> > class VMNormal>>testClassExtension1. It shows some basic stuff.
> > >
> > > The browser is far from being finished. However its use is illustrated
on
> > a page containing several screenshots where you can see classboxes in
action
> > :-)
> > > http://kilana.unibe.ch:9090/classboxes/classboxtutorial/
> > >
> > > I would be really glad for any comment.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Alexandre
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:11:25AM +0100, goran.krampe at bluefish.se
wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?= <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
> > > > > Hi goran
> > > > >
> > > > > not all the namespace are bad. Do not confuse java bad design and
> > > > > namespace.
> > > > > Java package are just shortcuts. Also VisualWorks did some pretty
bad
> > > > > choices: importing a namespace at the class level sucks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Read our classbox paper (you will get soon near you a version
> > running).
> > > >
> > > > Got a fresh pointer?
> > > >
> > > > > This is a bit old now and
> > > > > we got a much better paper that we can send on demand (because
this is
> > > > > under submission).
> > > >
> > > > Well, no rush.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I just get nervous when people start talking about
namespaces.
> > > > :) Not because the concept is bad in itself - but that I think we
must
> > > > do something different from the others in order to keep the "good
> > > > values" of Squeak/Smalltak today.
> > > >
> > > > But it sounds like you are thinking along the same lines.
> > > >
> > > > regards, Göran
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> > > Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
> > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
> > >
> >
>
> -- 
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>