some thoughts related to seaside marketing
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Wed Apr 21 08:22:35 UTC 2004
Hi Avi and Julian
the presentation of lukas was really good.
I discussed with other seaside programmers (ian prince and also michel
bany). There was also some PhP guys and here are a bunch of ideas that
you the leaders of seaside could suggest to your community to help
- My boss was thinking that seaside could be a killer app for smalltalk
but there are still some stuff to do :)
- I already pointed the web site. where is www.seaside.org? with a cool
- my impression is that a mailing-list does not support a vertical
growth of the community
in the sense that (1) the information is not formatted, (2) I should
ask publicly while if I'm a shy PhP programmer I do not want to ask
publicly and show my ignorance -> the community (not you)
could decide to use a forum or a wiki. I think that this is important
that you push to connect the community and strengthen its basis. I
think that squeak has the same problems the mailing-list is too elitist
(we are all cool and happy people but if you look at squeak source half
or more of the people registered there never send an email in the
mailing-list and we should involved them).
- michel bany is doing a port of seaside on VW but this was clear to me
if this would be publickly available. What is the status?
- class comments and small examples (your tutorials are a good start
but then). we are trying to
push a PhP guy to use seaside and he told me that there is no doc and
he is nearly right.
- Having a small tutorial or cookbook, "building your own shop using
seaside" targeted for PhP programmers is important. One french editor
said that their sells in PhP books did not drop while all the other
drops the last two years.
So I'm sure that you do not have the time to do that BUT you are the
leaders so point to the right direction and ask for help. I'm sure good
soul will help.
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