3.8 UI performance drop?
humasect at shaw.ca
Fri Dec 3 02:41:06 UTC 2004
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yoshiki Ohshima" <Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: 3.8 UI performance drop?
> > Hmm, I thought these new fonts/m17n were initially presented in 3.8
> > patches.
> > All of Squeak's present system fonts have absolutely no characters for
> > non-ASCII?
> No. They have some of those right half of Latin-1 chars. When the
> old New York font was the default, I bit-editted the original font
> (oops) and the m17n packages for 2.4(c), 2.8 and 3.2 all had all
> Latin-1 chars for New York.
Ah, I see, yes.
> However, I didn't (or nobody) get around to do the similar thing for
> AccuFonts yet. As a result, today only part of the latin-1 is
> covered. Sorry for people from Icelandish^^;
> > All languages and encodings I've tried always show as Win16-style
> > corruption; blocks and squigglies as displayed binary.
> What languages and encoding?
I don't recall each file i've processed, but notably UTF-8 (German as well
as Japanese), Shift-JIS, EUC-JP.
> > Perhaps I can at least copy NihongoSqueak's set over to where I can
> > use it.
> They don't have too many code-points covered either. Only for
> Japanese and enough to give the illusion that it can support JIS X
> 0208 area with people familiar glyphs.
Ah, is this the set which contains special characters, such as ?, ?, ??
> > It also supports IME through a plugin (ImmXx) for Windows;
> Minor note; this plugin is completely optional. Its sole role is to
> move the composition window at Squeak's cursor. And we have the
> similar mechanism for X11.
Ohh, I see. Like Emacs for windows which doesn't move this composition
window (it stays top left), so it can be somewhat platform-independant?
(Code conversion for character input only seems to be required)
> > does the platform-dependance prevent inclusion to base Squeak?
> What does it mean?
=) You've answered it above, I think.
> > I'd love to have Japanese language
> > support, NihongoSqueak(6a) does this /very/ nicely. I should look around
> > see if anyone is still working on this - for Squeak itself (3.8-3.9) or
> > merge of both.
> We are. Especially, Abe-san and Yamamiya-san, and me (a bit), are
> planning to make a rock solid version of Squeakland (3.8) based image
> catered for Japanese users. Same code base, a little configuration
> difference and pre-loaded Japanese fonts. The new school year in
> Japan begins in April, so that is one of our semi-hard deadline.
Ohh! Hmm, is there a possibility of including what is catered in
NihongoSqueak into another image? Perhaps just bringing the fonts containing
Japanese characters is all that is required, I haven't looked at the moment.
> Along this course, I hope to add other language support.
> Speaking of '_' and '<-', I have my theory...
> -- Yoshiki
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