MC in basic
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Tue Dec 14 10:46:20 UTC 2004
>>> So then we put VMMaker, Games, Celeste, Balloon3D,
>>> Wonderland, Scamper into packages. Only to replace them with m17n,
>>> SqueakMap, SUnit, Tests, (and soon) Monticello in basic.
>> VMMaker, Games, Celeste, Balloon3D,Wonderland, Scamper are official
>> packages whereas SqueakMap, SUnit, Tests, (and soon) Monticello
>> belong to the infrastructure allowing to deal with and load other
> So you consider something like 3D support not to be infrastructure.
> That's a very interesting point of view; totally unlike to my own. I
> would have declared all of the basic media capabilities (graphics,
> sound, 3D) to be infrastructure and instead argued that a system can
> perfectly well run without the tests (you can load them if you wish to
> develop in a particular subsystem) or any single source-code
> management system.
Sure. Come one the test can be remove with one line expression.
Same for MC but not quite true for Changeset and the rest.
> To me, programming is a particular use of the system not its whole
> purpose for being - that purpose is to be an environment for
> encountering dynamic media (which may or may not include programming
> activities). But then, maybe I'm the only person actually playing the
> Squeak games, hm? ;-)
> - Andreas
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