A number of questions
lattam at mac.com
Wed Dec 15 02:12:17 UTC 2004
Thanks for the pointer. The step by step instructions failed for me on
The first sign of trouble is:
gnu-interp.c:6:2: #error GNUIFICATION FAILED
make *** [gnu-interp.o] Error 1
make: *** [vm/vm.a] Error 1
To get VMMaker to run, I had to manually type the platform as "unix"
since it detected it as Mac OS and no such platform files exist in the
Squeak 64 files provided.
The instructions indicate they have been tested under Panther on a G5,
so it must be my fault. If you have any suggestions from this
admittedly short input, let me know. Otherwise I will experiment.
On Dec 14, 2004, at 3:23 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
> Ok, well some of the behavior is based on OS9 with overriding
> different behavior for OSX. Remember Apple did want to make things
> easy to port so many things just
> worked without specific os-x behavior, thus inheriting from os-9
> On Dec 14, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Michael Latta wrote:
>> The question below is that the classes are named *MacOS9* so I was
>> not sure if that or the unix code was in use on MacOS/X standard
>> usage (what is in the full download).
>> A separate question: Are you working on the 64 bit VM? Is it
>> available for the G5? I obtained the files from the CVS repository
>> for VMMaker work, but are the 64bit changes in that, or another
> From a post Ian made in Oct, as yet I've not had time to play with it
> much, nor have a G5 handy to run it on.
> Just as the title says. The "release notes" are somewhat long and
> involved, so grab them online at:
> Note that it's still very much in the "alpha" stage (so comments,
> suggestions, etc., are welcome concerning any part of it) and that it
> is not intended for anyone who isn't already comfortable with building
> and troubleshooting the VM (problem reports from VM hackers also very
> welcome, of course). Please send any e-mail to both Dan and myself,
> direct. Thanks.
>> On Dec 13, 2004, at 11:29 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>>>> Michael Latta <lattam at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> I will pick up the NuBlue book. The ST-80 books I have had for
>>>>> decades. I have started to read the comments in the VMMaker
>>>>> and will check the others. There are platform specific MacOS but
>>>>> OSX bits, on OS/X are you using the Unix bits, or the MacOS bits?
>>> I'm not sure I understand the question? Technically you can run
>>> either the squeak VM as a unix quartz application
>>> under os-x lacking some of the historical mac features, it's a
>>> traditional unix development environment supported by Ian.
>>> Or the original squeak mac VM as a carbon application. That code
>>> base is compiled both on os-x using project builder and os-9 under
>>> an old version of codewarrior and uses #ifdefs to switch between
>>> os-x and os-9 issues. So for example we use carbon events versus the
>>> getnextevent, or underneath posix UTF-8 file names, versus HFS+
>>> names, and unix BSD sockets, versus Open Transport.
>>> More merging of the code base will occur over time, certainly once
>>> the os-9 classic mac users fade into retirement. Which VM to use
>>> is a matter of personal preference.
>>> John M. McIntosh <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> 1-800-477-2659
>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.
> John M. McIntosh <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> 1-800-477-2659
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
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