dway at mailcan.com
Wed Dec 15 21:42:21 UTC 2004
In an attempt to summarize this thread, the three main candidates for
fixing the native text-editing command key problem were dupAll, dupMain
and swapMain, defined in Lex's first post.
After a bunch of discussion in this thread and also a separate
"copy/paste" thread, people indicated their preferences:
dupAll - Me, Lex, Ingo, Milan Z, Ned?
dupMain - John H, Ned
swapMain - Hannes
(By "preference", people were mostly pointing out what they thought was
the best overall solution, not necessarily their own personal
Note that all three of these solutions solve the essential problem of
beginners on Windows being able to use ctrl-c/ctrl-v/etc to copy/paste
I posted an [ENH] yesterday which implements dupAll. Since IMO it was
the overall winner in the discussion, I will harvest it & put it in the
3.9alpha stream soon. Both dupMain and swapMain (and the current option
of no swapping/duplication whatsoever) are still available as
preferences that people can turn on.
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:40:50 -0500, "Doug Way" <dway at mailcan.com> said:
> On Monday, December 6, 2004, at 01:17 PM, Jon Hylands wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:36:26 -0800, "Doug Way" <dway at mailcan.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Actually, I'd say that dupAll is winning, not dupMain. (Perhaps
> >> that's
> >> what you meant to say.) dupAll is preferred by you, me and Milan Z.
> >> No
> >> one has specifically said they prefer dupMain to dupAll. (Well, I did
> >> originally but then I changed my mind.) A few others mentioned that
> >> they like the dup* behavior in general, but didn't differentiate
> >> between
> >> dupMain and dupAll.
> > Well, I specifically like dupMain better than dupAll...
> Oops, you're right, you did mention that.
> > However, I don't
> > mind going into the preferences of a new image and setting it either.
> > What we should be looking at is not what people on this list like,
> > rather
> > what we think would be the most appealing and/or intuitive to a
> > beginner
> > for whatever platform they happen to be working on.
> Absolutely. Actually, when I say I "liked" it, I meant that I thought
> it was the best overall compromise solution, taking various factors
> into account. (And Lex was definitely trying to judge objectively.)
> For my own personal usage, they would be the same for me.
> I think dupAll is better for beginners, tutorials and from a
> consistency point of view. dupMain may cause less of a problem for
> some existing users. That's probably the main difference between the
> If we went with dupAll as default, we could keep the dupMain preference
> around for those who prefer it.
> Anyway, if anyone else feels strongly about what would be the best
> overall default preference, please speak up now.
> (For those who haven't been following "dupAll" and "dupMain" etc were
> defined in the first few posts on this thread.)
> - Doug
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