EToys and related messages on list
lattam at mac.com
Thu Dec 23 16:55:20 UTC 2004
Thanks for the answers, and the work to keep them in sync.
On Dec 23, 2004, at 8:22 AM, Ned Konz wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 December 2004 7:43 am, Michael Latta wrote:
>> I have noticed quite a number of messages relating to EToys of the
>> "Get the SqueakLand stuff" or "Use the SqueakLand image", or "The
>> fixes are in the SqueakLand image". So I have several questions:
> These have mostly been from people using the 3.7 Squeak.org image.
>> 1) If EToys is only being maintained in the SqueakLand image should it
>> remain in Squeak? If the version in Squeak does not work that well
>> is not being maintained should it remain here?
> We have taken the recent Squeakland changes and have rolled them back
> into the
> 3.8 stream.
>> 2) How divergent are the two images?
> Very similar at this point (3.8 vs. Squeakland). We have taken up
> through CS
> 0368 from the Squeakland work and brought it over to the 3.8 stream.
>> 3) I assume there are pieces of EToys that are very deep in the
>> and it has some pretty cool aspects, but is the version in Squeak
>> calcifying for lack of attention?
> They're not different (see above).
>> 4) Can we encourage the SqueakLand group to use packages so we can
>> share work more easily?
>> 5) Have the SqueakLand people made radically different choices in
>> I would hate to see Squeak become the attic of old ideas.
> It is already somewhat that way, and could stand some cleaning.
> However, Etoys
> at least is being maintained.
>> If things do
>> not work well in this environment they should be packaged up and
>> removed. At the same time I would not want to have to use image A for
>> one feature and image B for another, so the better solution would be
>> find some way to keep the features working in both places. But, I
>> how hard it is to support the same code in multiple lines of
>> development, and for volunteers to do that is almost too much to ask.
> Michael Rueger has been trying to keep the 3.8 and Squeakland images
> in sync.
> Thanks Michael!
> Ned Konz
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