Squeak Tutorials and Learning Resources (was: what I'd like to see in Squeak)

ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Tue Feb 10 08:43:03 UTC 2004


Hi jim

There is a chinese sqeuak mailing-list on squeakfoundation....

I know that some chinese guys have fun there with Squeak and Etoy ;)
You should have a look

Stef


On 10 févr. 04, at 06:59, jim wrote:

> Dear Lex:
>
> Thank you for your answering. Sorry for replying late.
>
> I've learned Smalltalk in past 3 years, though I haven't putting all 
> my time
> in programming as an amateur.
> And the main purpose that I learn to programming is to solve real 
> problems in
> my work and wish that I can help others somedays later in such as 
> building
> some interesting sites.
> Squeak is the choice. But I learned 
> GNUSmalltalk/Stx/ObjectStudio/VW/VAST and
> even Smalltalk MT more or less to gain any commonly appliable 
> knowledge.
> I have less difficulty in reading and learning. If there is a tutorial 
> I can
> make it. For example, I can do the modeling, gui building and mapping 
> jobs in
> ObjectStudio.
>
> Squeak tutorials on the site you have pointed out are great. But I've 
> tried
> them in year 2000 and found them not sufficient for solving my 
> problems.
>
> Your comments on re-organizing those existing materials here and there 
> is
> wonderful and great.
>
> In fact I have just mananged to get an adsl account and I have even 
> created
> Squeak groups for Chinese amateurs like me. They are empty now.
> I've just pick up Squeak again for several weeks. And I'm excited to 
> have
> tried the SM this morning. There are worlds in the dark evening sky ;) 
> to
> beginners to Squeak. Maybe the three methods you've mentioned will 
> help point
> them out.
> I would feel very lucky to translate some of them and get them 
> organized in
> Chinese.
>
> If it's not too boring, I even want to carry out my tiny project here, 
> when at
> last I get it buildt with the help of the others I will organize them 
> into a
> tutorial and translate it into Chinese.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> (Since I didn't get this message as mail but only find it on site in 
> archive
> so I cut and paste it here)
>
>
> ----------Copied message----------------
> jim <jigme1968 at tom.com> wrote:
>> What prevents me from learning Squeak(but not other dialects) is its 
>> lack of
>> tutorials. Though I understand why, it's really troublesome.
>
> Are you aware of the Tutorials area on the swiki?  There are quite a 
> lot
> of tutorials there to help beginners.
>
> 	"Introductions to Squeak"
> 	http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/377
>
> If you are aware then I wonder what you are really missing.  If you are
> not aware then we definitely need to update the introductory material.
> This would be a good thing to link to in the Welcome to Squeak window.
>
> My impression has been that for years now Squeak has plenty of raw
> material to help out new users.  If I wanted to try and make Squeak
> easier for new users, these things look more promissing than writing
> more tutorials:
>
> 	- the content and organization of the initial image
> 	- the organization of www.squeak.org
> 	- the organization of the swiki
>
> Or if writing is what someone feels like doing, it seems more 
> productive
> to pick one area of Squeak and document it.  In particular, going
> through the image and adding class comments and example methods would 
> be
> extremely helpful to new users.
>
>
> -Lex
>
>




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