Thank you for your kindness, though I've already been among them;)

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> Hi jim
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> There is a chinese sqeuak mailing-list on squeakfoundation....
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> I know that some chinese guys have fun there with Squeak and Etoy ;)
> You should have a look
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> Stef
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> On 10 f=C3=A9vr. 04, at 06:59, jim wrote:
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> > Dear Lex:
> >
> > Thank you for your answering. Sorry for replying late.
> >
> > I've learned Smalltalk in past 3 years, though I haven't putting all=20
> > my time
> > in programming as an amateur.
> > And the main purpose that I learn to programming is to solve real=20
> > problems in
> > my work and wish that I can help others somedays later in such as=20
> > building
> > some interesting sites.
> > Squeak is the choice. But I learned=20
> > GNUSmalltalk/Stx/ObjectStudio/VW/VAST and
> > even Smalltalk MT more or less to gain any commonly appliable=20
> > knowledge.
> > I have less difficulty in reading and learning. If there is a tutorial=20
> > I can
> > make it. For example, I can do the modeling, gui building and mapping=20
> > jobs in
> > ObjectStudio.
> >
> > Squeak tutorials on the site you have pointed out are great. But I've=20
> > tried
> > them in year 2000 and found them not sufficient for solving my=20
> > problems.
> >
> > Your comments on re-organizing those existing materials here and there=20
> > is
> > wonderful and great.
> >
> > In fact I have just mananged to get an adsl account and I have even=20
> > created
> > Squeak groups for Chinese amateurs like me. They are empty now.
> > I've just pick up Squeak again for several weeks. And I'm excited to=20
> > have
> > tried the SM this morning. There are worlds in the dark evening sky ;)=20
> > to
> > beginners to Squeak. Maybe the three methods you've mentioned will=20
> > help point
> > them out.
> > I would feel very lucky to translate some of them and get them=20
> > organized in
> > Chinese.
> >
> > If it's not too boring, I even want to carry out my tiny project here,=20
> > when at
> > last I get it buildt with the help of the others I will organize them=20
> > into a
> > tutorial and translate it into Chinese.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > (Since I didn't get this message as mail but only find it on site in=20
> > archive
> > so I cut and paste it here)
> >
> >
> > ----------Copied message----------------
> > jim <jigme1968 at tom.com> wrote:
> >> What prevents me from learning Squeak(but not other dialects) is its=20
> >> lack of
> >> tutorials. Though I understand why, it's really troublesome.
> >
> > Are you aware of the Tutorials area on the swiki?  There are quite a=20
> > lot
> > of tutorials there to help beginners.
> >
> > 	"Introductions to Squeak"
> > 	http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/377
> >
> > If you are aware then I wonder what you are really missing.  If you are
> > not aware then we definitely need to update the introductory material.
> > This would be a good thing to link to in the Welcome to Squeak window.
> >
> > My impression has been that for years now Squeak has plenty of raw
> > material to help out new users.  If I wanted to try and make Squeak
> > easier for new users, these things look more promissing than writing
> > more tutorials:
> >
> > 	- the content and organization of the initial image
> > 	- the organization of www.squeak.org
> > 	- the organization of the swiki
> >
> > Or if writing is what someone feels like doing, it seems more=20
> > productive
> > to pick one area of Squeak and document it.  In particular, going
> > through the image and adding class comments and example methods would=20
> > be
> > extremely helpful to new users.
> >
> >
> > -Lex
> >
> >
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