On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:29:13PM -0800, Alan Kay wrote:
> Actually Smalltalk was created as an "arch hoping for a cathedral".

Well, yes I know, but I didn't have the exact words to express it
so eloquently :-)

Joshua


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan
> 
> -----
> 
> At 3:02 PM -0500 2/12/04, Joshua 'Schwa' Gargus wrote:
> >Aah, the Cathedral and Bazaar debate.  My opinion is that although
> >Squeak is doing great as a Bazaar, it is important to remember that
> >Smalltalk was created in a Cathedral.
> >
> >Joshua
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 06:48:21PM +0000, Gary McGovern wrote:
> >> Thanks! That's great, but....aren't you missing all the external points 
> >> of
> >> view and feedback that would come from the list and a working distro ?
> >>
> >> Anyway that's my opinion:).
> >> Thanks!
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>
> >> >Croquet is "down" but not out. We have been working on the hard part for
> >> >the last year, and hope to have something to show RSN. We are working on
> >> >cleaning up the UI, documentation, and a host of other fun things, most
> >> >importantly the TeaTime collaboration architecture, which is coming to
> >> life
> >> >in a big way. We think that TeaTime will be worth the wait.
> >> >
> >> >So don't give up yet. We are still working hard on this. In the 
> >> meantime,
> >> >here is a link to the paper we presented in Kyoto at C5:
> >> >
> >> ><http://www.reed.com/tealand/lightsmith/04.01.01%20CroquetUIPaperV3.pdf>
> >> >The first half of the paper is a rehash of previous work with a bit more
> >> >depth. I think you will find the rest of it worth reading.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >David
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >At 12:12 PM 2/11/2004, you wrote:
> >> >>Is it ?
> >> >>I've subscribed to mail list - no answer.
> >> >>The mail-list archive link - down
> >> >>Messages on google ok for now.
> >> >>Main download - removed.
> >> >>Available download - doesn't fit with start instructions on opencroquet
> >> >>site.
> >> >>
> >> >>I need a hand to start - I could mess around with it for a while (and
> >> come
> >> >>up with my own thing), but I've lots of things to do and would rather 
> >> be
> >> >>given a hand so I can go straight into making a project.
> >> >>
> >> >>Any help would be great!!
> >> >>Thanks
> >> >>Gary
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
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