Hi all!,

>It usually takes a few years of experience before
> the wisdom of including Squeak (or Chaucer, or music appreciation) in the
> curriculum becomes apparent.  That was the point of my response --
tailoring
> course materials specifically to appeal to the limited perspective of the
> students must be done with great care to avoid reducing education to mere
> training.

First of all I must say that I live in Argentina and we
 are "suffering" the effects of instruction (training)
 and poor education. [*]
Most teachers feel that they success if children knows
 how to apply a formalism (a formula, a theory or any
 object oriented/focused technique).
The effects of mere instruction is huge and examples
 of it is anywhere, in geosphere and homospere.

Now a question...
What are the most powerfull attributes of the Smalltalk Ambient
 to be exposed to people (not only childred) to teach to build
 virtual realities in a stable way (as natural development of
 open systems) ?
Do you have any material related with education in a virtual
 ambient (a.k.a smalltalk) ?

Any material, guides or comment on experiences related with
 using the object ambience in the development of open
 systems will be greatelly appreciated.

best regards,
Ale.

[*] In countries with high instruction as Argentina and devastated by the
aplication of reductionism and formalization as the main tool for solving
problems, it is *very* important to teach and learn how to construct in an
ambience preserving stalibity. The most common method employed in Smalltalk
is very promising. The ambience as a device to build open systems preserving
identity give us an opportunity to explore alternatives to reduction and
object orientation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Fisher" <gafisher at sprynet.com>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Squeak in college education


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Davies" <steve at daviesfam.org>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Squeak in college education
>
>
> >
> > Perhaps I expect to much - but shouldn't people who think like that
> > about their university education should rather be at a vocational
> > school?  Or just go to "Java University" or whatever.
> >
> > Steve
> >
>
> Hi, Steve!
>
> The view Aaron quoted is pretty typical of the students I've known, no
> matter what the subject.  It usually takes a few years of experience
before
> the wisdom of including Squeak (or Chaucer, or music appreciation) in the
> curriculum becomes apparent.  That was the point of my response --
tailoring
> course materials specifically to appeal to the limited perspective of the
> students must be done with great care to avoid reducing education to mere
> training.
>
> Gary
>