ask for APSL? for real this time?

Bijan Parsia bparsia at
Tue Jan 13 00:20:55 UTC 2004

Indeed, if I've been following this exchange correctly, then Squeak isn't
a useful developement environment for many cross dialect projects (any
that aren't Squeak-L compatible!). That seems sad. I wouldn't be surprised
if it applied to, oh, Active Essays developed in Squeak (even, perhaps, if
compiled to some other format like Flash or SVG). Ouch.

This doesn't seem to be the intent of Squeak-L, i.e., to make it the case
that mere *use* of Squeak as a development enviroment contaminated one's

Might I suggest we table this for the moment, at least until Andrew gets
to a more relaxed, post-trial-like time? If the situation is as I
understand it, then I think there's good reason to get behind a more
liberal, indeed, extremely weak, licence, if at all possible, but most of
us are already "in the lurch" such that a few weeks or months seems
unlikely to make a huge difference.

I'll add that it seems to me that this is part of the general issue of
monlithic images. Open source licences don't seem to have been developed
with them in mind, so it's perhaps no surprise that they have unexpected

Bijan Parsia.

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