Spatial Data Management System

Alan Kay Alan.Kay at squeakland.org
Wed Mar 17 14:28:38 UTC 2004


Here was my reply to Bill Donelson:
At 11:07 AM -0800 3/16/04, Alan Kay wrote:
>Hi --
>
>At 6:35 PM +0000 3/16/04, William Donelson wrote:
>>Dear Alan
>>
>>Long time, no speak. I hope you are well.
>>
>>A friend of mine pointed out your notes on the internet concerning 
>>my MIT work "The Spatial Data Management System", which formed my 
>>Bachelor's Thesis of 1975 and Master's Thesis of 1978. Dr Bolt 
>>later wrote several reports on this work for our sponsors, as well 
>>as a book "The Human Interface".
>>
>>Although you reference Nick Negroponte and Dick Bolt, I have 
>>discovered that Dr Bolt has never provided any references to my 
>>earlier works in the lab.  I cannot understand why this is, as Mr 
>>Bolt designed a completely different system which was never 
>>implemented.
>
>OOPS
>
>>
>>The design work on the SDMS I and SDMS II systems which were 
>>completed in the 1975-1980 time period was at least 85% my own 
>>work, assisted by Mr Chris Schmandt, Mr Joe Rice, and many others 
>>in the Architecture Machine Group at the time. As anyone there will 
>>tell you, Dr Bolt had little to do with the design of the systems.
>>
>>Unfortunately, your mistaken references are not the only ones on 
>>the internet. I am lucky to have friends who have reported this to 
>>me, and I would certainly appreciate your consideration in the 
>>future.  (You can confirm my work with Chris Schmandt, who is now a 
>>professor at the MIT Media Lab).
>
>I believe you, and I remember your name -- I just wasn't aware of 
>the extent of your contribution.
>
>>
>>I do have a videotape of the system in action, in which Dr Bolt 
>>sits in the chair and operates the system, which may be 
>>misleading...
>
>This is where I got a large part of my misattribution. In fact there 
>is a conversation between Bolt and you on the video, along with the 
>existential question "Who is Bill Donelson?".
>
>Can you point me to the page on the internet that needs to be 
>corrected? Perhaps I can get it corrected. I'm very sorry that I 
>didn't have the correct references. I've long been a big admirer of 
>this work (I think it was the best single UI design of the 70s), but 
>for some reason, I don't have any of the primary documentation about 
>it, just secondary.
>
>Best wishes, and let's fix it,
>
>Alan
>
>>
>>Regards,
>>William Donelson
>>
>>
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At 9:54 PM -0500 3/16/04, Alan Grimes wrote:
>This sounds interesting but I think you e-mailed the wrong person. =\
>
>William Donelson wrote:
>
>>Dear Alan
>>
>>Long time, no speak. I hope you are well.
>>
>>A friend of mine pointed out your notes on the internet concerning 
>>my MIT work "The Spatial Data Management System", which formed my 
>>Bachelor's Thesis of 1975 and Master's Thesis of 1978. Dr Bolt 
>>later wrote several reports on this work for our sponsors, as well 
>>as a book "The Human Interface".
>>
>>Although you reference Nick Negroponte and Dick Bolt, I have 
>>discovered that Dr Bolt has never provided any references to my 
>>earlier works in the lab.  I cannot understand why this is, as Mr 
>>Bolt designed a completely different system which was* never* 
>>implemented.
>>
>>The design work on the SDMS I and SDMS II systems which were 
>>completed in the 1975-1980 time period was at least 85% my own 
>>work, assisted by Mr Chris Schmandt, Mr Joe Rice, and many others 
>>in the Architecture Machine Group at the time. As anyone there will 
>>tell you, Dr Bolt had little to do with the design of the systems.
>>
>>Unfortunately, your mistaken references are not the only ones on 
>>the internet. I am lucky to have friends who have reported this to 
>>me, and I would certainly appreciate your consideration in the 
>>future.  (You can confirm my work with Chris Schmandt, who is now a 
>>professor at the MIT Media Lab).
>>
>>I do have a videotape of the system in action, in which Dr Bolt 
>>sits in the chair and operates the system, which may be 
>>misleading...
>>
>>Regards,
>>William Donelson


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