spontaneous menu change

Chris Crowley chris at winterstorm.ca
Thu Nov 25 10:49:10 UTC 2004


Responses embedded below:


lex at cc.gatech.edu wrote:

>Chris, I haven't seen exactly what you describe.  Perhaps next time it
>happens, you can do some extra tests?
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>	1. When you get into the broken state, is it possible to save an image
>by popping up a new world menu?  If so, then people might be able to
>look at your image and see what is happening.
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No, I can't get at the usual World menu.

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>	2. Can you still use text editors?  That is, can you click back into
>the workspace and keep typing?
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I don't think so (not 100% sure about the typing.)

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>	3. Does the menu you pop up truly not have a "more" at the bottom of
>it?  Usually if a menu has multiple pages, all pages say "more" at the
>bottom so that you can get back to the first page again.
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It's got a "more", but it's unclickable as per Milan's earlier response.

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>>A related question: is it possible to hand-code ".st" files and then 
>>just file them in? 
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>Yes.  Just do it.  There's no trick at all; it works exactly like you
>describe.
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I'll have to try it again then because what I concocted wouldn't file-in.

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>>All this aside, I'm enjoying smalltalk and squeak.
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>You will miss quite a lot of Squeak's goodies by programming in a text
>editor.  For example, how will you know what methods are available in
>each class?  How will you test your code?  How will you debug it?  How
>will you try out methods that you see?  How will you dig into other
>people's applications to see how they set things up?
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>You can't do all these things in a separate text editor.  You need a
>dynamic programming environment, and Squeak is just about the only one
>around.
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>But, you can work that way if it is that much more comfortable.
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>Lex
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I was just suggesting I do some typing/editing in the external editor 
and then switch back to squeak after filing the thing in and get the 
benefits above. Even without the menu issue, I've been tempted to code 
externally and then switch back to squeak to test several 
classes/methods. I find editing easier in Xemacs. But it's certainly not 
ideal to have to file code in repeatedly.

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