Squeak-dev Digest, Vol 22, Issue 20

Alejandro F. Reimondo aleReimondo at smalltalking.net
Mon Oct 18 07:46:29 UTC 2004


> > From: Rick McGeer [mailto:rick at mcgeer.com] on Friday, October 15, 2004
> 4:34 PM:
> > A better question is WHY we believe that writing papers (as
> > opposed to code) is design.

Because design (as a drawing) has no compromise with stability (is only a
proyection of a though, but code can be equivalent if you use a programming
language).
Writing code is not what "we do" while working with objects in an ambience.
I must say that a very big percent of smalltalkers write code, yet (use
smalltalk as a language to write formal expressions... a kind of
virtualization of a virtual system); but I am optimist and think that this
can go better some day and the formation of diverse groups can help to build
communities that use more instruments than formalizations of virtual
systems.

>From Jarvis, Robert P....
> My observation on this subject is that to most people writing words is
easy,
> but writing code (that works) is hard.  Most people prefer to do easy
> things.

Most people do the better they can.
But they "do not have time" to evaluate the consecuences
 or think that it is not their bussiness :-)
Refactoring and other refinement activities are delayed
 and only posible to apply when you have to adapt a
 system to other application contexts.
The possibilities of adaption of systems to other contexts
 are subject to bussiness and most people today does not have
 the possibility to be involved in such situations. :-(

best,
Ale.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jarvis, Robert P. (Bob) (Contingent)" <bob.jarvis at timken.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Squeak-dev Digest, Vol 22, Issue 20


> > From: Rick McGeer [mailto:rick at mcgeer.com] on Friday, October 15, 2004
> 4:34 PM:
> > A better question is WHY we believe that writing papers (as
> > opposed to code) is design.
>
> My observation on this subject is that to most people writing words is
easy,
> but writing code (that works) is hard.  Most people prefer to do easy
> things.
>
> Bob Jarvis
>
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