Hi goran

why changeset and friends are not as a package right now. So MC could 
be a good substitute

Stef


On 15 sept. 04, at 08:24, goran.krampe at bluefish.se wrote:

> Hi guys!
>
> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?= <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
>> Hi bert
>>
>>>>> I think that we should also include Monticello as a package in
>>>>> 3.8/3.9.
>>>>> I see two reasons to do this, one short term one long term.
>>>>
>>>> We actually discussed this a bit earlier (although no one summarized
>>>> the reasons as well as you did here) and generally agreed that
>>>> Monticello should go in 3.8.  It's actually in the plan for 3.8:
>>>>
>>>> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3832
>>>
>>> I assume you're speaking about the full image, right? We agreed
>>> earlier on that no packaging system should go into the base image, 
>>> but
>>> only the infrastructure necessary to build one, in particular
>>> PackageInfo. I agree it should make it into the full image which has
>>> all sorts of developer tools.
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Well, I disagree. :) I think it should go into Basic. BUT.... *as a
> package*. This means that Minimal (or did we call it kernel? Gosh, 
> can't
> remember) will start to get visible. Up to now most people have only
> been aware of Basic and Full. But if we think about this carefully we
> also have "Minimal" - that is - Basic minus the packages in it.
>
> IIRC Basic was meant as the "basic" environment for development. It
> should include the tools that are in general needed for development, 
> not
> all the tools that are "nice addons". Monticello has IMHO a long time
> ago passed from being a "nice addon" to now being the essential tool 
> for
> source code/package management in the Squeak community. And as such - I
> think it should be there from the start.
>
> But *as always* - we should add it *like a package* - just like SM for
> example. Which means it is maintained separately, can easily be 
> removed,
> yaddayadda. You guys all know the reasons - I don't need to repeat 
> them.
>
> regards, Göran
>