What do you think about Ruby ?
Blake
blake at kingdomrpg.com
Sat Aug 6 18:24:43 UTC 2005
Ruby is not as "pure" as Smalltalk. I'm far from an expert, but Ruby
strikes me as a language made by someone who said, "Wow, Smalltalk is
cool. So simple. Look, even loops and branches are done with objects. Ew.
Let's make a Smalltalk where the loops and branches are done the usual
way. Also, let's drop the image concept."
I think the image concept could be improved on, but as far as making
traditional loops you add both the complexity and rob yourself of a new
way of thinking, which is really where Smalltalk excels.
As for the ascendancy of C# and Java over Smalltalk, this was entirely
commercial (and to a degree, condescending). Someone willing to pour a few
billion into Smalltalk could easily make it a competitor against those
langauges. I know Sun dissected Smalltalk pretty thoroughly prior to
inventing Java, but why not make it look like C++ so as not to threaten
"the masses"? Same with C# which is, in fact, Delphi in C-style dressing.
They could've used Smalltalk. Hell, they could've used the P-code system.
But Sun and MS wanted control. For better or worse.
Perhaps more interesting, and the reason I keep coming back to Smalltalk,
is that what was envisioned for it in the beginning still hasn't been
reached. Computer languages rise and fall with the ephemeralities of the
business world, and Smalltalk chugs along....
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