[ANN][IMPORTANT] New leadership formed!
goran.krampe at bluefish.se
goran.krampe at bluefish.se
Mon Feb 21 10:33:38 UTC 2005
Hi Peter!
"Peter Crowther" <Peter at ozzard.org> wrote:
> > From: [...] goran.krampe at bluefish.se
> > Q: Who gave you permission to do this "coup" you sneaky bastards!?
> >
> > Noone did, because before today there was no decisional body or forum
> > that could grant it to us!
>
> In other words, you are planting a rallying flag in the ground and
> declaring that some powerful people, and some people with useful
> resources, have already rallied round that flag. Good; I think many of
> the people on the list are disheartened with the current situation, and
> need a flag. It's not necessarily a coup, as you're not necessarily
> leaders. You will be *leaders* when you have followers. Until then,
> you're a faction. No less, no more.
I agree with you in full. I am sorry if my words seemed to imply
otherwise.
I think our actions will show this more clearly.
> > - Decisions that needs to be made for Squeak will in
> > the end be made by us.
>
> For *which* Squeak? You're assuming nobody will choose to form a rival
> faction, and declare that they have Squeak. You are, I think, stating
> that you will make decisions for *your* faction's Squeak. I don't see
> how you can do otherwise, as you would then be claiming to make
> decisions for something over which you have no power or control.
I agree, exactly.
> I salute you for making the effort - it's long overdue - and I will
> rally to your faction's flag for now. It appears to be the best of the
> available options. However, like many*(?) of the readers of this list,
> I will evaluate what's best for me and behave appropriately. I look
> forward to the realisation that I've made a good decision in rallying to
> your flag.
I hope so too. :)
> - Peter
regards, Göran
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