Let us face reality

Frank Shearar Frank.Shearar at rnid.org.uk
Thu Jan 27 10:34:41 UTC 2005


stéphane ducasse <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> There is no point to send fix or enh in the mailing-list if 
> no one (or 
> only bert) is looking at them and collecting them. Marcus got burnt 
> (really burnt to the point to be really incapable to think about his 
> research) in the past. I helped and I will continue as soon I can and 
> 3.8 is out. But if we do not find a way to identify resources (= pay 
> someone to do something) so that this job is done, then 
> forget Squeak.  
> We are trying to get a real foundation on foot but I do not 
> see a real 
> interest.
> 
> Let us go and hack our own fork this is more fun....

We actually need a brief on what it means to be a Good Citizen(tm) in this community. Not just being polite and all that social stuff, but what the community needs from us as members. Reviews? Fixes? Bug reporting?

So. Stephane, does your frustration stem from the lack of reviewing that happens? (I'm sure you've answered this before many times, but this topic's come up so many times these past few months that it's difficult to see the wood for the trees.)

Some random thoughts:
* We need people to find bugs.
* Then we need people to write tests for those bugs.
* Then we need people to write fixes for those tests. We don't need reviews of these fixes - if they pass the tests, then they fix the problem!
* Then we need people to commit those fixes (and tests) to the update stream.

On a slightly different aspect,
* We need people to provide cool new features for inclusion in the base image.
* Then we need people to review these new features.
* Then we need people to commit these enhancements to the update stream.

Finally,
* We need people to write tests for the base image.
* Then we need people to use those tests to write refactorings.
* Then we need people to check the refactorings, making sure they don't break packages (or if they do, to mail the affected maintainers).
* Then we need people to commit these refactorings to the update stream.

Out of the above, do you assert that we need more reviewers?

frank


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