Hi -

I am in favor of the "Squeak Chat" idea. 

I agree with Andreas that others may get the mistaken perception that 
that harvesting party is "exclusive". I was one of those people who 
initially got the wrong impression. Stef is right that harvesting is a 
very small part of the chat. Changing the name to "Squeak Chat" could 
result in an increase in the number of people participating in the chat 
(although I think timing/schedule is also a factor) .

I also agree with Doug's suggestion to" include in the announcement that 
harvesting activities are encouraged (but not required) as part of the 
chat.".

Sincerely,
Larry Trutter


Andreas Raab wrote:

> Hi -
>
> The question whether the title harvesting party is appropriate or not 
> is  indeed a very interesting question. I won't speak for others but 
> personally speaking I think the title "harvesting party" sounds like a 
> meeting for harvesters, e.g., it has a feeling of being exclusive. 
> When I first saw it I actually interpreted it as a hint not to add to 
> the noise on the channel (e.g., more like "please stay out because we 
> have important things to discuss and we need the channel").
>
> Because of this, I do like "Squeak Chat" a *lot* more since it's 
> inclusive - you are free to chat about everything which may include 
> items on the harvesting list. Indeed I would go further than that - 
> I'd try to invite guests to each chat (preferredly those that many 
> Squeakers know and may want to asks questions) perhaps even giving a 
> talk and a tour of parts of the system.
>
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
>
>
> stéphane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I discussed with ken about the fact that the harvesting party emails  
>> are counter-productive
>> and that I would like to see them rename as SqueakOnline, SqueakChat.
>>
>> The main problem is that right now the email gives the impression  
>> that something
>> is happening but NOTHING happen in the harvesting. (alex started to  
>> harvest a bit
>> and me too) but beside that this is not during the parties and now  
>> nothing happen.
>>
>> So I would prefer that you realize that if you think that if  
>> something is happening
>> this is totally wrong.
>>
>> I could not convince ken and he asked me to ask you to react. So please
>> let him know that this is not productive to let people think that  
>> some progress
>> are made to include fixes and enh when nothing happen.
>>
>> I think that the voices of the previous harvesters are important: so  
>> marcus, doug,
>> mike, yoshiki, bert let us know.
>>
>>
>> Note that I have nothing against the chat over irc because this is a  
>> cool idea.
>> But right now, it gives the wrong message
>>
>> Stef
>>
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