Look at the download history for the past 12 months.... zero

Nobody in the java community seems interested in this.  Wilkes has a good point as well.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Wilkes Joiner <wilkesjoiner at gmail.com>
Reply-To: "The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion."<seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Date:  Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:03 -0500

>There is http://lakeshore.sourceforge.net.  I know nothing about it.   
>Even if it does work as advertised, you are still losing a LOT by not  
>using Smalltalk and its environment.
>
>Wilkes Joiner
>http://wilkes.blogspot.com
>
>On Jun 10, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Henrik Ekenberg wrote:
>
>> I have check " http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/ " but it is not  
>> the same
>>
>> mvh
>> HEnrik
>>
>> On 6/10/05, Squeak Smalltalk <wallenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Seaside is nice. I have try www.tesuji.nu/calc
>>> My boss ask me today if there is anythig like seaside in the Java  
>>> world ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> W.
>>>
>>> On 6/4/05, Dominique Dutoit <dominiqued at versateladsl.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your best bet is to make a live demo of how you are going to debug
>>>> the application with Squeak and how painful to process is when doing
>>>> the same with Java.
>>>>
>>>> I think that Smalltalk is all about how the developer and the
>>>> environment participate to achieve a goal and it is very  
>>>> difficult to
>>>> convey that experience with articles and books. Java is so remote  
>>>> and
>>>> looks like a mountain you are not allowed to climb further than its
>>>> souvenirs shop, and you can't descent because so many people are
>>>> rushing behind you.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, good resources are:
>>>>
>>>> - http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/seaside/
>>>>
>>>> A gentle introduction to the challenge of developing web application
>>>> without a state machine.
>>>>
>>>> - http://homepage.mac.com/svc/ADayAtTheBeach/
>>>>
>>>> A nice article explaining the development process of a seaside-based
>>>> calculator.
>>>>
>>>> - http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2003- 
>>>> September/
>>>> 002132.html
>>>>
>>>> A comparison between a weblog tool written with seaside and Java.
>>>>
>>>> - http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?
>>>> showComments=true&entry=3261049347
>>>>
>>>> A report on a keynote given by Avi a while ago.
>>>>
>>>> - http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?JavaVsSmalltalk
>>>>
>>>> - http://www.smalltalkchronicles.net/edition3-1/whyjava.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to explain to one of my customer why they can use Squeak
>>>>> instead of Java in a new project.
>>>>> "The project is a server based payment software."
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any good http pages ? So they can read and build an
>>>>> opinion ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> W.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S I want to keep my customer so please "Smalltalk religious
>>>>> pages" ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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