Ideally, SystemWindow etc. should be revised to become a neutral wrappers 
of Morphs. Example 1: SystemWindow sets the color of its submorphs. If I 
want something else, I have to set it after having buildt the window. 
Example2: ScrollPane (which I often use within a SystemWindow) gobbles up 
mouseUp-events.

Cheers
--Trygve

At 13:50 19.06.2005, you wrote:

>On 6/19/05, stéphane ducasse <<mailto:ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> 
>ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
>Hi john
>
>I liked your simple approach. What I would like to see if if we can
>fix simple glitches of your style or others and use it to improve the
>squeak default look.  May be tweak will save the rest but I'm not
>sure. So I would really like to get something now instead of dreaming
>about tomorrow (that may not happen).
>So what do you think about that?
>
>
>Who really knows SystemWindow code well? It would be good if I and/or Ben 
>Schroeder could pair up with someone who knows it because there are just 
>enough nuances that it would be best for us to review to fix small 
>glitches in our Look Enhancments (i.e. small text boxes with scrollbars, 
>border widths are not exactly precise, etc...).
>
>We also did not "care" about maintaining the "alternate window look"  in 
>preferences. If you toggle that option off then all goes bad on style 
>(windows are black). Lastly, SMLoader window lost it's paneColor in 3.8 
>and beyond. Not sure why, but I keep having to add paneColor override to 
>get the pale yellow Squeak Map loader back otherwise it is transparent. 
>This only happens when using our Look Enhancements, but it clearly used to 
>have this override in 3.7.
>
>So, yes, some polish would be needed to make this the defacto style. I'm 
>for it, and advice on SystemWindow would be appreciated.
>
>John
>
>--
>It's easy to have a complicated idea. It's very very hard to have a simple 
>idea. -- Carver Mead


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