As of today, What does "3.9" mean?

Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki at squeakland.org
Thu Mar 10 16:14:01 UTC 2005


  Göran, 

> Well, I can't answer this. I assume we either use 3.9 as it stands or we
> could take 3.8 and reapply the few updates that have went into 3.9, I
> don't know. What is the instability you are referring to? Again, Doug's
> ball. :)

  All I know is a bug report from Lex.

> >   For that matter, does anybody think it is a good idea to have a
> > version something like 3.8.1, in which we only fix the bugs, but don't
> > add new features?  The way we make new release (not only 3.8 but most
> > of former versions) has been that we add many last minute changes
> > toward new release, and not quite put much effort to stabilize things.
> > And people tend not to jump to a beta or gamma version.  "A release,
> > and a bug fix release" is a way to overcome this problem.  (Nihongo6
> > had some rough edges. We released Nihongo6.1 to fix the problems and
> > it worked very well.)
> 
> This is actually exactly the way we intend to do it for 3.8. We have
> even tweaked the code for loading updates on startup so that "newbies"
> starting Squeak for the first time will be politely asked to load any
> post release fixes.

  ok.

> >   It is too late to advocate this idea, but we could name such thing
> > 3.9 and all the "major" changes can go into new major version.  (And,
> > in this case, we should keep both version "alive".)
> 
> Eh, no, let us not confuse things more than they are. :) This is what we
> have now:
> 
> 3.8 (to be released any day now)

  Yes.

> 3.8.x (x being upped by 1 for every fix I think, not sure)

  Let's not dilute the announcement effect.  I was thinking to
"release" in bigger chunk.

> 3.9 (this is scheduled for june and will include:
> 	- ToolBuilder
> 	- Result of the Packages team which mainly will be a partitioning of
> the image. This is a very important step forward.
> 	- A bunch of other good things which have been discussed in the "Stefs
> roadmap" thread.
> 	- Possibly Traits (*possibly* - first we need a good beta (work is
> being done) and we also need to contact stakeholder communities etc,
> since this is an important change)
> 
> 4.0	Stream opens sometime in june and the first thing to go in will be
> the result of the MorphicSplitters team. The plan for 4.0 is otherwise
> not known.

  Ok.  As long as we are commited to keep fixing the 3.8 family, it is
fine.

-- Yoshiki



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