need feedback on http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc

Milan Zimmermann milan.zimmermann at sympatico.ca
Sun May 22 06:10:53 UTC 2005


Stef,

We looked at the art, the girls loved it and I did too, thanks for the link.  
Looking forward for the book, Milan

On May 21, 2005 03:17 am, stéphane ducasse wrote:
> On 21 mai 05, at 4:12, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> > Stef, this is my "report"
> >
> > Install:
> >
> > 1) Windows 2000, Service Pack 4:
> > ==============================
> >
> > First I did not read instructions:
> >
> >     - uninstalled any Squeak from system
> >     - downloaded ReadyPCyyy.zip
> >     - unziped to c:\temp\stefsbots
> >     - double clicked on C:\temp\stefsbots\ReadyPC\squeak.exe
> >     - the above action opened the "bot system", looks good
> >     - clicked on the yellow "Bot" and typed "go: 100" - error .. ok
> > i realized it
> > is a class
> >     - clicked on the Blue Bot and typed "go: 100" - worked :)
> >
> > Then I read instructions, a few notes:
> >
> >     - the names (e.g. the ReadyPCyyy.zip filename) are somewhat
> > different than in
> > docs on the website. You may want to name it "Bots.zip" or similar.
> >     - dropping the image on executable works nicely, i never tried
> > that with
> > squeak, but then i don't use windows much.
> >
> > A few Notes:
> > ------------
> >
> >     - i am not completely sure running fullscreen does not confuse
> > beginners on
> > windows because it hides the "Start" toolbar.
> >     - you may want to add some text on the system: "to quit (or to
> > do anything),
> > right-click anywhere on the system window..."
> >     - i asked my kids and they said they don't know what WinZip is,
> > and that they
> > do not think they have it in school. Maybe that is an indication it
> > would
> > make sense to wrap your zip as installable file to increase the
> > available
> > audience ...
> >         - in fact i tried one Windows installer:
> > http://nsis.sourceforge.net/download/ (i am not associated with
> > them in any
> > way :) )
> >         - you can use their zip2exe feature - it takes a while, but
> > it creates
> > ReadyPC-yyyyy.exe that can be "installed" simply by double-clicking
> > at it and
> > it is smaller - i tried it. No WinZip required.
>
> Excellent I will do that!
>
> >         - with some playing around, there is probably a way to make
> > an executable
> > that installs an icon for Bots on your desktop. Let me know if
> > you'd need
> > help.
> >
> >
> > 2) SuSE 8.2, I do have VM 3.8 installed
> > ========================================
> >
> >     - using KDE
> >     - used the same ReadyPCyyy.zip
> >     - un-arked ReadyPCyyy.zip to $HOME/squeak/botinc
> >     - created desktop icon named Bots, properties==>"cd
> > $HOME/squeak/botinc/ReadyPC;squeak Ready.image"
> >         - starts up, works as well :)
> >
> > It's really nice, we played a bit (my girls and i) with your Bots a
> > probably 2
> > years ago .. but now they are teenagers  so I could not make them
> > play :( and
> > there's little time right now, as they are leaving in 2 weeks for
> > the summer
> > so i will have more time then, if you need someone to play with it
> > in more
> > detail and report, let me know...
>
> thanks a lot
> show them what the art teacher and my wife are doing with the
> environment= the gallery
> on the website because some of them are beautiful
>
> > Later Milan
> >
> > On May 18, 2005 02:52 pm, stéphane ducasse wrote:
> >> Hi guys
> >>
> >> My book will be release soon so I would like to know if some of
> >> you can
> >> have a look at my wiki
> >> download the zip and try them on their machines. This would really be
> >> great and help me.
> >>
> >> http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc/
> >>
> >> I will fix the menubar soon...
> >>
> >> Stef




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