Hi craig

what is the license of flow I could not find it on the web?

PS: with your approach we would really cool stuff never integrated,  
evolution is a slow
process and squeak is less and less bloated. Of course cleaning is  
not fun.

Stef


>
> Hi Colin, everyone--
>
> > After we spoke at OOPSLA 2002, I evaluated Flow for use with my
> > web-based projects of the time. I quite liked it, and tried
> > to figure out how to make use of it without having to maintain forks
> > of the other packages I was relying on...
>
>     (...or a fork of Flow, as Slate has done, for example.)
>
> > Ah, well. That certainly changes things. Three years ago, you were
> > pretty firmly against changing any of the names in Flow. Would  
> you be
> > willing to release and maintain a version of Flow that doesn't
> > conflict with the existing old stuff?
>
>     I think it's better for others to do that while I work on Spoon.
>
>     As I've said before, I favor a very rapid transition period  
> (when it eventually occurs :), given my positive experience doing  
> that with Interval Smalltalk in 1997 (and later, seeing how poorly  
> the gradual transition to Michael Rueger's network rewrite went).  
> Instead of continually reintegrating Flow with the current bloated  
> Squeak, I decided to dissolve these perennial class-name-conflict  
> problems, by refactoring Squeak into a minimal object memory and a  
> module system where class name and identity are distinct. (I think  
> such a system has several other benefits as well.)
>
>     Look, when people wonder how something could work differently  
> (as in the recent file-positioning discussion), and I have an  
> example solution, I'm going to mention it. :)  But I just don't  
> have enough time to maintain a version of Flow for current Squeak  
> while pursuing the broader system vision of Spoon. I think it's  
> better for others to adapt Flow how they see fit, even if that just  
> means using it as a design influence.
>
>     Well, I can tell the only one who will be happy with this  
> answer is me. :)  So, sorry for stirring things up by mentioning  
> Flow again. As you were. :)  I'll be over here working on Spoon and  
> eager to discuss what Squeak 4 and beyond might look like.
>
>
> -C
>
> -- 
> Craig Latta
> improvisational musical informaticist
> www.netjam.org
> Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
>
>
>
>