On 12/nov/05, at 08:32, stéphane ducasse wrote:

>>>
>>> RT> Rusted at the station!!??
>>>
>>> However, language differences shouldn't matter if what is  
>>> provided to
>>> the business is easier to maintain, faster to develop, and has less
>>> ownership costs.  Just like the same paragraph says, right?
>>>
>> I agree.
>> I am a true storng Squeak and Seaside fan, I have used  seaside  
>> when first showed up.
>>
>> But I like much more the Rails "pragmatic" attitude,
> which is?
When you download ruby on rails, you get a full develpement environment.
You can generate model, view and so on with one single command.
You have a script to migrate the db schema forward and back your last  
changes.

The log is organized to give you performance measure on how much time  
is spent on querying and how much on serving data.
You get 3 configuration (dev/test/production) and unit testing  
integrated.

I can continue but what I stress is the strong organization and  
simplicity you get out of the box with
little effort by yourself
I think it is very amazing.

>
>
>> although I am a theoric one and love a lot some of the discussion  
>> we do in squeak dev, sometimes.
>> bye bye
>
>

-- 
Plus I remember being impressed with Ada because
you could write an infinite loop without a faked up condition.  The idea
being that in Ada the typical infinite loop would normally be  
terminated by
detonation. -Larry Wall                          [   [  [ JJ ]  ]   ]