Need to do something

stéphane ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Tue Oct 11 17:46:30 UTC 2005


On 11 oct. 05, at 13:12, Cees De Groot wrote:

> On 10/10/05, Michael van der Gulik <squeakml at gulik.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Something is wrong when a "hobby" open-source project burns people  
>> out.
>>
>
> It's not hobby. People are making money with it - some directly, by
> writing software for customers, some indirectly, by using it in
> research.

Yes
I really have no problem working and harvesting changes but I think that
we should pass to another speed. Because marcus should work on his PhD.
I think that we should arrive to a level where the process is  
supporting itself.
At least we should try.

> And I agree on one thing with Richard Stallman (probably only on one
> thing): there's a difference between free beer and free speech.
>
> So if this work needs to be done and demands 8 hours of concentrated
> attention per day for a week or two (or whatever), we should pass the
> hat, fill it, and pay someone to do it. As long as we do something
> like this on a project basis, it cannot possibly tear up the community
> - you vote with your wallet.
>
> And yes, it'd be great if someone from a country where wages are a bit
> lower than over here could take on the job.

I think that we need someone good and we can trust. I know that this is
difficult to judge like that. I know that ned told me that he could work
a bit to help and payed with a low rate. But I would like that the  
community
understands that we need to push some work and have a process for that.

> So, let's make a time budget for this (probably best done on the
> packaging list), get someone to bid on it (for my part a closed
> bidding process to the SqF board or whatever if people don't want to
> talk about money on public fora or don't want to risk their offer
> being rejected in public), and pass the hat to see whether we can fill
> it.
>
> I'll pay my bit, I want this thing seen done.

My idea was that the money we collect via Squeak Foundation can be  
used to improve
Squeak in general.

Stef







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