Need to do something
ken at kencausey.com
Tue Oct 11 22:11:05 UTC 2005
I'm not at all against someone sitting down and building an improved
system. But I get tired of hearing talk (and I don't mean for this to
be directed at Chris individually, we are all guilty of it regularly)
about how the current system is less than ideal. I think we all realize
that but in my opinion until we have spent time working with what we
have we don't really understand how to build a better system. And
judging by issues opened and attached notes (and I receive every single
one of them) there are a lot of us who have yet to even give Mantis much
of a try.
Let's make an effort to work with what we've got and build up experience
to guide us on producing a better system.
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 23:55 +0200, Michael Rueger wrote:
> Chris Muller wrote:
> > Stop pushing them through Mantis or any other external tool. Instead, we write
> > a program that integrates into Squeak that allows anyone to submit directly
> > from the alpha image. These submissions appear on everyones list. Later the
> NIH all over again. Things never seem to be hard to implement, but we
> are having this discussion because people are running out of energy
> harvesting, let alone writing yet another tool for crying out loud...
> We just moved to Mantis because the other approach didn't work. People
> always underestimate how much work it actually is to get something to
> the level of functionality like Bugzilla or Mantis.
> If you want to integrate submissions into Squeak hook up to the Mantis
> web service (supposed to be in the newest version) or craft a nifty pice
> of Squeak magic that fills out the forms automatically.
> Apologies if this sounds too aggressive, not meant that way, just wnat
> to very firmly express my opinion about this, backed up with 22 years of
> Smalltalk experience.
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