Smalltalk and Self

stéphane ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Thu Sep 1 09:31:21 UTC 2005


Hi andreas,

I agree with the rest but not that:

> Heh. I've been saying this for years. Wanna know what a good  
> alternative is? Roll your own. Then you've got control over your  
> own destiny and can build the best system of all. Yiiihaaaa! ;-)

Are you suggesting that the two to three guys that spent their nights  
harvesting the changes that are useful for everybody
should stop to do that and that we simply fork, that we do not  
collect all the good stuff that is been done and that your non-hobbyst
projects can benefit on (new compiler, method annotations, fixes....)

Been a lonely player can be good for you but this is not the way we  
want to create and support our community.
I think that with a good amount of respect and communication we all  
have to win.

Stef

PS: I think that StableSqueak failed for all kinds of reasons and in  
particular the lack of openness of SqC related group at that time,  
because Ginsu was
what MC is not from the metamodel perspective back at that time.

PSPS: this was fun to see the remark of mike on the VM setup because  
I was not able to understand anything related to the discussion
but its seems that he had a point. BIt gave me the bad impression  
that the VM maker is a rich club where kids should not play.






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