[ANN] new version of services available for preview
Romain Robbes
romain.robbes at lu.unisi.ch
Fri Sep 30 15:54:35 UTC 2005
On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Emilio Oca wrote:
> Yes, something like that. Let me try to explain again.
> I suggest two behaviours:
> * Double-click to select text as usual over non selected text.
> * Navigate (if posible) if double-click over selected text.
>
so that would be a kind of quadruple-click?
well I'll try several possibilities
> I don't think either that triple-click is possible.
I will have a look in the places I modified, and will see which of
the two approaches
is the easier to do.
Romain
> Cheers
>
> Emilio
>
>
>
>> Hi Emilio,
>>
>> I don't quite understand what you mean ... the behavior I
>> have for
>>
> now
>
>> is to both select the word and attempt to navigate, which
>> deselects the word sometimes.
>>
>> Just by reading your mail, I was thinking of doing navigation by
>> triple-clicking
>> (was that what you meant btw?), which could maybe be doable.
>> Would
>> everyone (Tim?) find that ok. I don't think Squeak can do
>> triple-
>> click to select
>> a line or paragraph (and can't check because my double-click is
>> modified ;-) ).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Romain
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Emilio Oca wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Romain,
>>>
>>> I'd like to keep the behaviour of double-click to select a word.
>>> But the behaviour you propose is handy. Is it difficult to make it
>>> work over
>>> a selected text?
>>> In that case we could keep both behaviours.
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> Emilio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]En nombre de
>>>> Romain Robbes
>>>> Enviado el: Viernes, 30 de Septiembre de 2005 06:48
>>>> Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>>>> Asunto: Re: [ANN] new version of services available for preview
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 30, 2005, at 1:57 AM, tim Rowledge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29-Sep-05, at 4:22 PM, Romain Robbes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2005, at 10:02 PM, tim Rowledge wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The obvious question here is how this affects the traditional
>>>>>>> usage of double-click on a word to select that word for cut/cop/
>>>>>>> paste/etc. Is there some extra gesture you missed out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well ... that's kind of a problem now ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah. This ought to be sorted out pretty quickly then.
>>>>> Introducing modes is a good way to become the subtract of a number
>>>>> of voodoo practices so I'd avoid it if I were you. What is the
>>>>> problem with simply leaving the selection behaviour alone and
>>>>> using
>>>>> the same ctl-m/n hotkeys that we already have as ways of getting
>>>>> the implementors and senders? There isn't much point in making a
>>>>> simpler UI for getting to them at the cost of completely ruining
>>>>> the normal editing actions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me, navigating in the code is more "normal" than copy/
>>>> pasting, ie
>>>> I use it way more often. Then I recognize than I can get
>>>> bitten by it from time to time. But I think using the mouse for
>>>> this
>>>> really help in quickening the navigation. I'd really like to have
>>>> something like alt-clicking for this, but most of these keys are
>>>> taken already. Since I never use the halo (even if I trigger it
>>>> all the time ...), I was also thinking of including a 'mode' there
>>>> (as some people still need it). I'd really like to remove the
>>>> mode,
>>>> but finding a good keystroke+clicking combination is tough. The
>>>> same
>>>> thing applies to keyboard shortcuts by the way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If you're original impetus for the change was to get to senders/
>>>>> implementors faster it would probably be more widely useful if you
>>>>> could make the building and opening of the dratted message set
>>>>> browsers faster.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well the idea is to have the smalltalk browser behaving like a web
>>>> browser: click on something and go there in the same window
>>>> (senders, implementors, references to class and instance
>>>> variables).
>>>> then you can go back and forward in your history, all of this
>>>> without
>>>> opening a new window (and not being bugged when
>>>> you have some code you were editing still not accepted).
>>>>
>>>> Romain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> tim
>>>>> --
>>>>> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Romain Robbes
>>>> http://www.inf.unisi.ch/~robbes/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Romain Robbes
>> http://www.inf.unisi.ch/~robbes/
>>
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