Hi jerome

I understand your frustration. Now this is important that we know  
what are the extensions needed to collections.
I will have a look at the email juan sent in the morphic mailing- 
list. I think that as you worked a lot in morphic should really  
participate to the morphic team. I know you are there.

Stef


> What I believe we are discussing are the growing pains
> of the new team system.
>
> The background is that for the last year my major bug
> fixes have be gathering dust because nobody had the
> responsibility or authority to act on them. So running
> into a bureaucratic tangle in getting them approved is
> actually a step in the right direction..
>
> My stuff is mostly morphic so I've been working on the
> morphic team leader to approve it. The team leader
> liked the work but didn't want to take responsibility
> approving stuff in the collection or st80 classes (or
> the graphic package either). So here I have one
> important but small change set and I find I have to
> track down and get permission from three team leaders.
>  Daunting.
>
> I wrote the request for help after I had looked hard
> enough to find several different sources of out of
> date stewart and harvesting information.
> Even when I did stumble across a page on
> www.squeak.org that had what looked like current
> information and stewart names I couldn’t find what I
> needed which was the mapping between the Class I
> wanted to change CustomMenu and/or its package ST80
> and the stewart I needed to contact to bless the
> change.
> neither typing
> http://map.squeak.org/packagebyname/ST80
>
> or  pretend we have already figured out the PI for the
> code at hand
>
> will not actually work. The first gives:
>
> Error
> http://map.squeak.org/packagebyname/ST80
>
> Returned by server: No package found beginning with
> name st80
>
> and the second leads me to rather pretend I have a
> squeak without bugs.
>
>> From the rest of goran’s note I deduce that he is
> trying to solve my problem while knowing too much.
> My patron does not want me to know all this stuff
> about package Info.
> He would rather I have a web page at a known (to me)
> location with up to date info that allows
> me to map what I know (Class names and the associate
> package name from the package browser)
> onto who I’ve got to call (well email) to get the go
> ahead my fixes need.
>
> As you can see from the discussion thread no one to
> date can give me that type of answer.
>
> Making it worse is the clutter of still available
> obsolete information; the innovation of new ways to do
> thing; and the frequency of reorganizations. If I read
> the other treads correctly who’s in charge of what and
> how much hasn’t quite settled yet.  Growing pains.
>
>> From my point of view the task is to
> 1) Fix things elegantly
> 2) Get the fixes  into the image.
> 3) With the least effort on the part of all concerned.
>
> So the thing needing doing as far as signoffs and
> permissions is:
> 1) Announce where to find the one page official source
> of infomation.
> 2) Create it once.
> 3) Keep it up to date as the signoff process is
> improved.
>
> Each of these steps is doable with a minimum of
> effort.
>
> Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace
>
> P.S. After consideration I got around my problem in
> the change set by retracting some pieces and renaming
> the catagories for ST80 stuff to *Morphic-...
> extentions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Help] How do I find out who has to sign off on ST80
> changes?
>> goran at krampe.se goran at krampe.se
>> Mon Jan 2 13:54:09 CET 2006
>>
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>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Cees De Groot <cdegroot at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/2/06, Peace Jerome <peace_the_dreamer at
> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> So how do I find the team leader who does the
> signing
>>>> off on that?
>>>>
>>> Good question. I think this might be a nice task
> for something like
>>> SqueakMap. Or maybe we could setup
> <packageInfo>@squeak.org forwarding
>>> to the appropriate email address. Come to think of
> it, this might be
>>> TSTTCPW.
>>>> For the matter at hand, however, there´s no team
> at the moment. So
>>> you´ll have to take it up with the 3.9a release
> team.
>>
>> Let me repeat myself a bit:
>>
>> For every Steward team there should be an SM package
> with a PI field
>> filled in, like the Network team has:
>> 	http://map.squeak.org/packagebyname/network
>>
>> This makes sure we have enough info to map any piece
> of code to actual
>> developers and their emails!
>>
>> Code for this is in PackageInfo-Extras (Ned merged my
> stuff which gives
>> you extra menu choices in the changesorters into his
> stuff) but I fear
>> it got barfed a bit because it doesn't seem to work
> properly, but the
>> idea is to use PackageOrganizer to find the PI for a
> piece of code and
>> then find the SM package and developers/emails from
> that.
>>
>> So if we pretend we have already figured out the PI
> for the code at hand
>> then we can:
>>
>> | package allDevs emails |
>> package := SMSqueakMap default packageWithPI:
> 'Network'.
>> allDevs := package maintainers copyWith: package
> owner.
>> emails := allDevs collect: [:dev | dev email]
>>
>> ...which gives:
>> an OrderedCollection('ken at kencausey.com'
> 'm.rueger at acm.org'
>> 'goran at krampe.se')
>>
>>
>> ...or just use the newly added "feedbackEmail"
> typically pointing to a
>> list:
>> (SMSqueakMap default packageWithPI: 'Network')
> feedbackEmail
>>
>> ...which gives:
>> 'network at lists.squeakfoundation.org'
>>
>> Anyway, I will try to get PackageInfo-Extras fixed
> and included - it is
>> a really nice extension to the changesorters to
> enable "direct" feedback
>> to the maintainers of fixes (it does changeset
> splitting etc based on
>> PIs).
>>
>> regards, Göran
>>
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