The state of the Squeak community
Bert Freudenberg
bert at impara.de
Thu Jan 19 22:59:25 UTC 2006
Am 19.01.2006 um 16:38 schrieb Martin Wirblat:
> stéphane ducasse wrote:
> ....
>> I do not understand why you want to oppose traits and tweak.
>> There is no such an opposition, after this is clear that there
>> will be some work (but the problem is not with traits)
>> to remove Morphic and use Tweak but we already said to andreas
>> long time ago that we are ready to help.
>> Apparently as usual you are talking but without knowing.
>
> Stephane,
>
> the last thing Andreas said regarding 3.9 with Traits in relation
> to Tweak was, that because of a series of errors he ran into caused
> by the class/metaclass changes by Traits and given the pain he
> experienced while porting Tweak to 3.8 he didn't want to
> investigate these errors further, and he didn't even mention making
> another port of Tweak to 3.9.
>
> Moreover he gave an interesting and *skeptical or cautious*
> overview about what Traits is and what it is not in his opinion.
>
> lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-January/
> 099311.html
>
> You responded to this post but as usual you ignored its
> implications. In fact you keep on ignoring Andreas' complaints
> about what you stuff into the update stream since a long time.
> Moreover, you try to turn down every skeptical opinion about
> Traits. At least you ignore it.
>
> But, you could proof me wrong, here and now, and I will withdraw my
> assertion that you behave ignorantly. Just agree to the idea that
> Squeak makes from now on a minimalistic release Squeak-Core, with
> Squeak-Traits and Squeak-Tweak (and perhaps others) on top of it.
*plonk*
- Bert -
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