Peace Jerome wrote:
> And it seems to me that more thought must be given to
> the needs, desires, and motivation of the squeakland
> community. As I listen to what I hear on squeakdev I
> get the sense that they are "strangers" to us now. Why
> is this? How did it come about? Even if we are to go
> our separate ways we need to know why.

I'd say it's mostly because the Squeakland community is to 98% educators 
and to 2% computer scientists. Squeak-dev is pretty much the other way 
around. Most of the people who use Squeak in an educational setting 
don't care about the tool - they care about the purpose that they apply 
this tool for (education). Contrast this with Squeak-dev: Here, it's all 
about the tool and hardly ever about what purpose it is applied to. And 
yes, I think it's correct that for most people in the Squeakland 
community the gobbly-gook that goes across on Squeak-dev is pretty 
strange. So is, for many people here, the thought to discuss how and 
where a Squeak-based curriculum relates to some state standard.

Cheers,
   - Andreas