Tweak mainstream in Squeak

Hilaire Fernandes hilaire at ext.cri74.org
Fri Jul 7 10:01:52 UTC 2006


Hello Daniel,

Daniel Vainsencher a écrit :
> Hi Hilaire.
> 
> Its taken us quite a while, but one of the things I like to think we've 
> learned as a community is that the right way to handle big changes is to 
> start early, but have multiple stages. Andreas mentioned the idea of 
> making Tweak into a package loadable into squeak-dev. This implies a 
> whole lot of work, in fact in the past this stage has usually been 
> something like half the work required for the integration of projects, 
> so I wouldn't trivialize the proposal. It is good for the community 
> because it allows people to try it out more easily. I think this is a 
> better proposal than committing lots of people that have never seen 
> Tweak into a "Squeak 3.10 is Tweak" plan.

Sorry we can't buy it:

-Getting Tweak in Squeak.org3.9 or
-Getting Tweak in SqueakMap so it is loadable in Squeak.org3.9

is as far as I can see 99.99% of the same process.

Andrea reply NO to the 1st one, then *maybe* YES to the second one...
self contradicting.

Really, we can't move on it, if the fuzzy mode is still switch on ;)

There are other alternatives, let's discuss about that ones. I will do 
some random proposals based on the recented developer contributions there.

Hilaire


> 
> Part of the process of making Tweak loadable would include identifying 
> its prerequisites explicitly, and giving them, also, proper review and 
> usage, a stage that would probably be at best rushed in an "all at once" 
> plan.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> 
>>> "full" version (which really just means that it'll be loadable via 
>>> SqueakMap) that's something we can talk about. Which is not quite a 
>>> yes, but thus far I haven't even looked at what it means to get Tweak 
>>> into 3.9 and I am willing to re-evaluate this option.
>>
>>
>> No Andreas, we cannot play that YES-NO game. We don't have time to 
>> waste resource on that sort of no answer position.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Hilaire
>>
> 
> 


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